What are the most popular bus routes from Hamburg? Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=661582295, https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/4d3per/belt_balancer_compendium/, Red Circuits (Advanced Circuits) x1 (recommend x2). In this particular case, the bottleneck can be fixed by feeding the two middle output belts with more splitters. for example, there will be dozens or trains that will want to get at the green circuits, so I will need train wait platforms but I'll need so many of them (have at least one wait platform for each train that wants green circuits just in case of bottlenecks) that there will be a whole grid just made up of wait platforms that not much room for actually making the circuits. Even if you only have 2 rows of green circuits, you might be just fine provided you can make enough of them, but most people do 4 for large bases. Here are some Assembly line examples to get you started: Science pack production can efficiently pull off of the main bus to have an expandable system. - That way at every step along the bus a few items are split off and used up and when the production comes to a stop the items go on to be used by the next production. Yea, that's fine, to make gears where they are needed. Due to the design of the whole base, there are 4 main rails that come in from each direction and pass through a big lane junction. The following designs have the additional property that if the incoming belts are fully saturated then the split-off belt will be full (recall that a single splitter with a single full input belt will by default split off a half-filled belt). Hamburg, Pristina This can be done to reserve room for later expansion, blueprint-ghosts are a good usage for that as they don't allow the belt to be filled with non-usable items. These start out as iron chests, upgrade to Passive Providers, then to Requesters as earlier belts are phased out. Hamburg, Lviv Split off iron in two places (for throughput), and a half-belt of green circuits. For the belt furthest from the assembler, split off copper plates. This is done by adding two more splitters at the end of the balancer, as it can be seen here: However most balancers' bottlenecks can't be solved as easily. Reason being is to have 4 belts of green circuits at full power requires 6 belts of copper and 4 belts if iron. Raw materials such as Iron, Copper, Oil etc are delivered via trains and are then turned into all 7 types of science using a large main bus. Place Assemblers: 1 crafting Iron Gear Wheels, 1 each for belts and assemblers, then 8-10 for Green Science. This is also a downside as there are more belts used and therefore more room for belt-buffer and everything is less compact. After that I begin to distribute production to separate factories and do not have single main bus for all products. - This is especially deceiving when the item isn't moving and all belts have filled up as these belts can't carry the amount they lead one to believe they can. The following are two designs for a split-off off a 4-wide bus that feature an in-line lane-balancer(by reddit user /u/moomaka). The output from putting them on something like green circuits feels impressive because of the output from so few assemblers, but it's much more effective to multiply blues, then reds, before greens! - The balancers/taps get very large above 4 since your next logical jump is 8. Grouping differing items together can cause problems when splitting them off, hence only groupings of two differing items is recommended. The concept of a Main Bus is to put the most used and useful ingredients in a central spot to use for assembling machines. EDIT: Here is an example of what I call a stage 2 "starter" base. There is no real right answer just whatever works best for your set up. Balancers that are output balanced distribute evenly to all output belts/belt lanes. For very large amounts of items railways may be a better alternative that can not only carry large amounts of ore but also the intermediate and end-products. In general, no block should be greatly than 4 but 1 and 2 are fine. I hope to cover everything in the series, but if you can't find something in the playlist above please leave a comment and I'll try to make a video on it.Today we covered how to split off a main bus, using priority splitters in both a waterfall and a reverse waterfall method, as well as more traditional main bus splits which take 25% off each lane.Map Download https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tP8lTMwijmavLCTsXYDTlB6xoNbfbFOlBlueprint String: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ML-UGyxwLOSfpIKC9G6L35IXkPqNOMImFactorio is a game in which you build and maintain factories.You will be mining resources, researching technologies, building infrastructure, automating production and fighting enemies. Belt balancers utilize the mechanic that splitters output items in a 1:1 ratio onto both their output belts. One of the most notable designs include the use of conveyor belts. Steel is usually the one I'm short on. I am currently thinking bigger now and starting a new game with a starter base and then working on building 'towns' that each produce stuff and use trains instead of a main bus to move supplies between the towns. - http://www.doomeer.com/factorio/#1132bbbbbbbbbbrrgrrrrrgrrrgrgrrrrrrrrrgrrrrrrB10rB12rB24rrrrgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrA1rrrA1rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Although a main bus can give you a huge advantage, it's still up to you if you want to use it. by Miravlix Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:19 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Just found you on Youtube last year. If a universal balancer is throughput limited, the bottleneck may be in the loops or the balancer itself. Taking two belts off of this won't produce two belts worth of output, the middle one only carries half a belt to each side! there is even enough iron left for "buildy things" (belts, etc). This item will only be visible in searches to you, your friends, and admins. Phone number (716) 649-0940. What items one puts on a bus is a personal preference. - Paris, Hamburg I love using helmod to do all calculations in-game, but of course a spreadsheet is fine as well. 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And the character saw they that they were good and that they would help him on his quest to get to end-game. - Would you say that I should have more chopper and iron? 2 iron, 2 copper, 1 red circuits, half and half blue/batteries, 2 plastic, green circuits, 2 steel. However, each triangular base section is an entire huge main bus! Valve Corporation. Id like to consider starting a train-grid factory that I see people use and I'm just theorizing that I'll come into . Input balanced lane balancers draw evenly from each side of the input belt, while output balanced lane balancers output evenly onto each lane of the output belt. Id like to consider starting a train-grid factory that I see people use and I'm just theorizing that I'll come into the issue of picking up ingredients. Lubricant: Used in making Electric Engines & Express (blue) level belts, splitters and undergrounds. That means that a splitter can be used to put an equal amount of items on two belts. Now red belt can span 6 tiles, which is pretty good for parts of the bus. Creating a train grid factory. Maintaining a main bus would require you a lot of effort and time to do it, including re-balancing your belts. You are very welcome! The concept of a Main Bus is to put the most used and useful ingredients in a central spot to use for assembling machines. Hamburg, Berlin (Airport Schonefeld) Balancers also use the mechanic that splitters take an equal amount of items from both input belts. Do you want your bus to be big enough for 1 rocket but no more, or what is the maximum width you plan on using? Personally, Ill run 8 lines of copper, 8 lines of iron, 2 lines of steel, and 1 line each for coal and stone. by netmand Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:16 pm, Post Far better to make these locally as needed. To be throughput unlimited, a balancer must fulfil the following conditions: Balancers often do not fulfill the second condition because of internal bottlenecks. Plastic x1 (recommend x2) Batteries x1. Using iron plates as index 100: Copper: 78 Steel: 7 Plastic: 15 Coal: 13 Iron Gear: 6 Electronic Circuit: 38 Advanced Circuit: 6 Stone Brick: 2 Note that this is for science only. you can reduce the number of belts needed on the bus by dedicating production to the intermediates (typically the green circuit requirements for other circuits). Here are some things people have put on their bus in the past: Each of these items would get a dedicated line of belts from which one would draw from if there is a need for the item. All purchases through these links help out the channel and when possible also give you guys discounts!Epic Games Store: https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/?epic_affiliate=jd-plays\u0026epic_gameId=undefinedHumble Bundle Store: https://www.humblebundle.com/?partner=jdplaysHow to find me?-----------------------------------------------------Feel bad about Adblocker? This item has been removed from the community because it violates Steam Community & Content Guidelines. For n n balancers where n is a power of two numbers, nlog2(n)n2 can be used to calculate how many splitters are needed. I ment it more like a general thing like if someone has a favorite setup they use it a cool to learn stuff from others like having 8 copper lines instead of just 4. While I might leave room for 4x iron/copper, 2x everything else, the setup normally doesn't live long enough for me to flush it out completely. You need to sign in or create an account to do that. Sharing makes us all stronger and more inspired to come up with new ideas! If you want to get away from spaghetti designs, building a Main Bus will allow you to reach a vast throughput of materials through your factory. The design shown here makes sure that the belts on the right side are filled first, so belts can be taken from the right every time without the need to further rebalance. For more information, please see our by CJ5Boss Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:40 pm, Post (I normally skip red belts and go straight to blue to save myself the annoyance of replacing the bus 2 times). READ MORE: Rust: How to fix mouse cursor on screen, Main bus alternatives and more important details. They are also inefficient to belt -- 1 copper plate makes 2 copper cables, inflating the need for belts by two-fold! Support me on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/JD_PlaysMy Twitter For details of upcoming live streams and anything else 280 Char or less: https://twitter.com/JD_Play5Chat with me live on Discord: https://discord.gg/G6FcZPpTwitch for all your Live Steaming needs: https://www.twitch.tv/jdplaysFeel like being hit in the face, with a book? Rust game file size: How big is the download. This Factorio Base Tour showcases a magnificent 5.2k SPM (Science Per Minute) Mutliple Main Bus Megabase made by Hornet! When logistic robots are available one might start moving some items by robots instead of using the bus. This is a good measure to combat "spaghetti factories" as it forces someone to plan a structured layout and move everything to use items from the bus. ): http://www.xtermvideos.comCheck out Factorio at: https://www.factorio.comFactorio is a game in which you build and maintain factories.You will be mining resources, researching technologies, building infrastructure, automating production and fighting enemies. The idea is that one wants to draw from every belt (and lane even) equally to not have too few items at the current planned production and not have empty and at the same time standing belts of items. The 4 line meta comes from a time of fixed underground lengths and the need for even balancer sizes. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Lane balancers may be output balanced or input balanced. Look into what products use your resources and how many of those resources you can produce. For the belt close to the assembler, split off half a lane of iron plates. So I'm starting of a new factorio game, planning on making my first rocket in this game. A good example of this are copper cables as they consume more space on a belt than in the form of copper plates. Two science packs made efficiently and traveling together on the same belt! by Rjskeet Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:44 pm, Post The following are 2 designs for a split-off off a 2-wide bus (by reddit user /u/unique_2). Players sometimes choose to only build on one side of the bus until they can estimate that they won't need more belts on the bus. It is only visible to you. In Factorio, having a main bus is an advantage, however it must be well-designed to make sure that it could be used properly and efficiently. Having smaller groups of only one or two is also not a bad thing. Search reviews. Really quite unique in my opinion.The factory utilizes 2-8 single length single headed trains for the raw material transportation. I have made about two lines of iron and copper in my last few vanilla games. Usually I make factories which consume 500 k - 1M iron plates per hour (4-8 blue belts), but three trains transport iron to green circuit factory, steel factory and main base (in which science packs are produced). The direction of a bus, being horizontal or vertical depends on personal preference and how one likes to work on the production that splits off it, which can almost always be expanded for greater use later on. That means that a splitter connected to two input belts will evenly distribute those items onto the the two output belts. This is a good measure to combat "spaghetti factories" as it forces someone to plan a structured layout and move everything to use items from the bus. If you look at popular bus designs most of them seem to have 4 belts with 2 spaces in between. I dont make any two buses identical unless Im following a blueprint for some starter base. by MobRules Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:12 am, Post Hope the guide was helpful :-). There are also over 200 trains on the map.Overall a very impressive and extremely satisfying base, both visually and with its huge and efficient production capabilities. Belt Balancers - how they work and how to make them, Finding balance: A guide to belt balancers, https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Balancer_mechanics&oldid=183149. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Using a non-prioritizing split-off will only distribute the shortage, not magically create more production. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Heya Gmanicus! through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Putting a lane-balancer after a split-off is not necessary most of the time as the rest moves on if the belt has no draw or if only one lane is used. What is your definition of "main line bus" ? To have all the information in the palm of your hand download our mobile app for free! For green circuitsi never go more than two for my starter base. The way in which materials are split off from the main bus determines which production setups in the factory are prioritized if the bus delivers less input than all the setups combined need. These are being used to transport items and put some of it in the centre spot (which is the main purpose of a main bus). There are numerous main bus blueprint designs you can choose from and use when in a match. When more than the number of allowed outputs backs up, the universal balancer behaves like a normal balancer, and may not balance properly. You'll get more benefit from your modules if you prioritize using them for more expensive things first. Yet! Place a regular inserter and a long armed inserter to feed each Science assembler. Belt balancers utilize the mechanic that splitters output items in a 1:1 ratio onto both their output belts. What should be on main bus Factorio? 4 should be max, as even if you run 4.. you will still run out as the belts just acts as buffer.. the real key is to have more inputs to the main buss, or and give some factorys direct link that matches theyr requirement from the furnaces. What bus companies operate the routes starting from Hamburg? Amsterdam, Hamburg What should I put on my new main bus and how many belts of each item? Some people build these assemblies off to the side, or transport these products by train as they run out of space near the beginnings of their factory. Use your imagination to design your factory, combine simple elements into ingenious structures, apply management skills to keep it working and finally protect it from the creatures who don't really like you.#Factorio1.0 #FactorioFundamentals #Tutorial-----------------------------------------------------Want to help out the channel? It is advisable to leave space between the groups of belts of one item for underground belt to surface and for other things to cross the bus. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw you were behind this. - The orientation of and how wide the players monitor is also plays a role in this decision. - If you believe your item has been removed by mistake, please contact, This item is incompatible with Factorio. Each of these is essential to your main bus design: Iron Plates x4 (recommend x8) Copper Plates x4 (recommend x8) Steel Plates x1 (recommend x2) Green Circuits x2 (recommend x4) Red Circuits (Advanced Circuits) x1 (recommend x2) Blue Circuits (Processing Units) x1. Place Assemblers: 1 crafting Iron Gear Wheels, 6-8 making Red Science. - - Some of the most popular companies departing from Hamburg are: Comati PSG, DTG Deutsche Touring GmbH, Sindbad, Union Ivkoni, Winew and Rute Auto. 7. Berlin, Hamburg Generally my main bus consists of iron plate, copper plate, and coal. Place 2 fast inserters in, and 1 fast inserter going out of the Gear Wheel assembler. Split-off designs aren't strictly necessary but help immensely. The gif on the right shows a 4 4 balancer being fed by two belts, but only outputting one belt which means that its throughput in that arrangement is 50%. Any arbitrary amount of input belts should be able to go to any arbitrary amount of output belts. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Therefore, I usually go down to two. - Youre allowed to do your bus as you see fit. Every item that is used in more than one recipe, got it's own production area with train inputs and train outputs, in my 2700 SPM game. I tend to only use main busses when bootstrapping up a large train-based base so just iron, copper, steel, green circuits, and maybe gears. spaghetti for everything else. Buy Factorio here: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/factorio?partner=jdplaysMore tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnIE0W-m629c4nhPTspGRVm35Zr80CZTgWelcome to my Factorio Tutorial series where I'll be trying to teach you guys everything I know about Factorio. With that, here's a main bus guide for Factorio, including the blueprint, designs, as well as alternatives and other important details. Try Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JDPlay5/Grab me a coke with paypal: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick\u0026hosted_button_id=YQYEAQV29Q2HC Feeling generous i have a amazon wish list: http://a.co/jc2vzrv https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ =754378586. This formula is based on the number of nodes in a Bene network, which is essentially the same as a throughput unlimited balancer it allows any input to reach any output. Split off a full belt of red circuits to go closest to the assemblers, since they are needed in highest quantity. I tried using next-level products (i.e. When your need for materials becomes too great, you may want to consider moving some production OFF of the bus and feeding it in from other locations. Balancers that are throughput limited may not be able to provide maximum output if one or more outputs are blocked. IMPORTANT: Guide will be updated for Full Release when I can find the time to do so! it really stacks up over the 5/6 process steps to make a rocket. The split-offs shown above generally prefer setups near the start of the main bus but will also supply some limited materials to the later setups. This indicates not enough products being produced to meet demand, this can be remedied with adding more lanes with corresponding more production further up the chain of production. don't steal from the 4 belts of iron), 2 belts red circuits, 1 plastic, 1 belt blue circuits, 1 belt with half regular and half electric engines, 1 belt of batteries. The priorities can be set in various ways but this should not distract from the fact that more resource input should be added whenever this becomes a concern. Place these one tile away from the Red Science output belt. The first bus me and my friend are working on is currently like 8 hours into development and we've just got everything set where we can start making plastic, so it takes a long time. This means I still have throughput on my iron/copper busses for other things. That means that a splitter can be used to put an equal amount of items on two belts. Balancers are used to evenly distribute items over multiple belts or multiple belt lanes. How many main lines of base resources( copper. 1 Rocket every 5 min "ONLY" requires one blue belt of steel and 7 copper if your curious. Kharkiv, Hamburg By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It's all about trial and error as you start out, you can't be afraid to build something and let it run for a few hours to see how it works - if its not working right delete it and try something else. Hamburg, Siegen You're going to need more than a single belt of iron and copper. Comati PSG Zentral-Omnibus-Bahnhof Bus terminal, Hamburg, Comati PSG Zentral-Omnibus-Bahnhof Bus terminal. Oldenburg, Hamburg steel, copper cable, iron gear wheel) but it gets way too complicated to belt weave and it winds up making more sense to having dedicated assemblers for each of their end products. People Also Viewed. How many main bus lines do you generally use? Frankfurt (Airport), Hamburg Bus terminal is located approximately 2.2 km from the city centre, which is approximately a 10 minute ride. I'm not a fan of linear buses, but I would urge you to plan out a production target and design according to that. - You could be the first review for Hamburg Legion Lanes. Hamburg, Frankfurt I still need to put skynet back in =P. if its easier on the group to explain, I'd be happy to be suggested a video that covers such dilemmas and any others that I'm not yet imagining. 0eNqlld1qhDAQhV+lzHUsxv/6DPsGpRTdDUvAjRLjUhHfvaPWVTBbMu1VcPR8OTOTMQOUVScaLZWBfAB5rlUL+fsArbyqoppipm8E5HCX2nQYYaCK2xRYvvAiGBlIdRFfkPOREZSnnTKwKqURt01mdKHaptbGK0VlduLwP+Jo/GAglJFGiiX1+aH/VN2tFBqTejA6VOirrnFdKAyaukVhraZ9EeYFDHpc0NFqo+5M000bHsABAewTuCHFMCeAo2fVPGAfVAsl/kM9+WZPqifuEmd3KxUPHVykFuflXWKBpu5Q7gzNtkloKmkMxo44/zVec7cg3qitCGwU7lMxVjOcuyTEfxLyrYiA2j27k9DBif+rkYg8lS6Hk8f0oXTiJsQO2suWUhpoP0oZofJIwJ/u/IPOdxcQg6pA7xiLvBnyMl0ad6HbZZSyNOBZmPhhNI7frCw6ag==, 0eNqdld9qgzAUxl9lnOs4TBq19Rl6tdsxhrahBGyUGMuK+O476jqFxpGzq+DR75fv/DHpoaw61VhtHOQ96FNtWsjfe2j1xRTVGHP3RkEON21dhxEGpriOgfmLSMLAQJuz+oKcD8yj1E5dF5mzhWmb2rqoVJVbiYVXvLXtcaXckZRvK6UcPhgo47TTas57erh/mu5aKosZ/ao7VNiLrXGdnTNo6haFtRk3RVgkGNxxQTsPD3Xnmm5M8gksCOCYwN1RDHMCWBLAFG7yjwrzBazNBjfdmrhNKg4gnLVVp/ld6oFmwdDYyxQe5j7cKA82elimvqm0cxh7xsWvyaOeHgSP6R0PaQznwQnz4CJyEZIw/0k49ua7o06Mv2wywEn8p5GEfDYE1T2lHw1B3IzYT3/Z9pQGCi/iQKg8EvDon66mfHUHMqgK9I4xGU2Ql2qE3JRt539NSpGmmeDiMAzfI+ZmDA==, 0eNqlldFugzAMRX9l8nOYcEih5TP2Ok0TbaMqEgQUQjVU8e8LdAy0hirWniIM9+TajsMNjmUnG6O0hfwG6lTrFvL3G7TqootyjNm+kZDDVRnbuQgDXVRj4P5FJGBgoPRZfkGOAyMo31ZK7lUqK6tFZk2h26Y2NjrK0q7EyX/EYvhgILVVVsl76tND/6m76iiNS2qLwaCpWyer9birQ0WcQe+WZBgN/cHwX0znNjYXU7t1AxTPHDYnU3e26UbbD9yEwI2QABYEMIW7I9eT++qZkjHow2TBmHg2w+CsjDzdX3EPc7+c9KZU1rrYo6n4dffE1iHYFgbbwpjeUVw6qvRGQxFD8sWffGNfusip3fRWDZMAJ/FTI4I8pkEl2tGnNIibEs+Jv2wZpYHeacQ9ofKO4O7c6X7OV/8fBmXhvLuYiCbIy8i4StNOiFQInqYZR34Yhm/sYzpB.