It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. Does that make sense? How to gain more distance without swinging faster? At just 29-years old, he can lay claim to 2 Major victories, a FedEx Cup Championship, PLAYERS Championship and a PGA TOUR Player of the Year Award. Greater distancethe eternal quest for golfers. ?,
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\)hEhH-hFtL+x There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. Physics First. [quote name='Hamish777' timestamp='1364356541' post='6704153'] Lets go one step further and use the TrackMan Combine data to see what kind of proximity to hole the AMA will be able to achieve at the various approach distances. My home course is around 6200 so I can work around not bombing it off the tee but it is perplexing to me. Your previous content has been restored. [/quote] Its a whole different story. How Far Does a 3 Wood vs 5 Wood Go? I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. The handicap system is equally misleading as the vast amount of amateur golfers dont have a handicap, and if they did, they would be 36.4. When I watch professional events I am always taken aback by how high they hit their driver but how low they hit their wedges. Average club speed was 105-112, average ball speed was 139-152, and average rpm was between 4400-5100. Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Wedges: Cobra Trusty Rusty (50, 55), Tour Trusty (60) Little higher launch, still low spin into the wind, and much easier to swing day in and day out. I spent a year playing by myself getting lessons finding a swing and just focused on having fun. This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. I know what you are thinking, there is a lot that goes into making a wedge. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. When it comes to how far the pros hit a 3 wood and the other longer clubs in the bag including their hybrids the distance analysis gets a bit more complicated because clearly the pros are starting to use these clubs for a wider variety type of shots than they do for their driver. When looking at how the AMA performs, lets start with the drive. This is really intersting reading and I could not agree more with the finding your distance principal. I also play at a local par 3 course which holds the junior par 3 championship and I have shot 7 under around the par 3 course. Optimizing a golfers distance with the driver (using their existing club speed) is an alternative way to effectively shortening a golf course. I'm planning to change my irons this year after a number of years but before heading straight to a club fitter to test out all the latest and greatest models I thought it would be interesting to take What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? I think this is very interesting but misleading. [/quote] Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] What a great read with invaluable data and information. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. The trend right now with wedge play for all manufacturers is lowering the ball flight on the full shots. Distance is great. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer As far as a Trackman goes.I've used it once. Tee and Approach Shots! [quote name='xmanhockey7' timestamp='1364353356' post='6703825'] But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. Please limit the number of items and requests. Yet I hit my driver 230 yards to what they say is average, 214. Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. 14* SLDR // Speeder 8.3x 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. It makes the head look a little rounder, but Vokey has done a great job of disguising this weight distribution at address. They hit 4-irons 208 yards and 5-irons 199 yards on average. Made more swing improvement of late and starting to control my driver more. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. However, the vast majority of the time I spend with my students that would fall into the AMA category is spent on working out the kinks in their swing (to help them hit straighter shots more consistently) and helping them with better contact with the golf ball. Im your AMA although Im trending down. The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. [/quote] The following is Torrey Pines South, where golfers line up each morning for a chance to play one of Americas 100 Greatest Public Courses (Golf Digest). What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. 3. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. 6 0 obj
I appreciate that. I almost just quit playing golf because when I started 4 years ago I was playing golf with two people most of the time that were in the 1% of AMAs . It's the short game. The longest player hits it 320 yards on average and the longest recorded drive in 2022 is 460 yards. Apex Height 112' 11" Simmer down, all. A former tour pro told me he hit a tree branch off the tee that knocked his ball down, and it affected his average for the whole year by 15 yards. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. Hi Gerry. The attention to detail from Bob Vokey is extraordinary and you can feel the change in strike as you try many different heads. I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. I would guess those numbers are pretty much all-out, perfect contact, carry distances. I feel pretty confidant in saying that those aren't his stoc :-). The facts are in front of us at instructors, now we must help convey your points to the masses. I think those numbers are a little high. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ [] They were consistently breaking 80 if not the mid 70s and almost every time hit their drives relatively straight and 275 to over 300 yards without a problem and doing it from the blue or blacks . Too many people walking around either who hit one drive at 300 a round and the rest slice 100 yards that only go 200 straight trying to tell people how great they are at golf when in reality they take like 6 mulligans a round or guys that are actually really good think that they are the norm when in reality they are a small minority and golf would not even exist if it were not for guys like me . Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). If it's a really short par 4, I will hit an iron, hybrid, or fairway wood to play to that ideal distance range. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Ping Glide 2.0 (54) DG S400 TI I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. me too! I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. The professionals are going to hit the ball on the screws significantly more often than the AMA. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. Ball Speed 176.38 The first chart, with the club speed distribution, is that only for hcp 14-15 golfers? %PDF-1.5
I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX, Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Im 65 years old. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. me too! Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. I think you wish you hit it further. I feel like Seve in the sand these days which is never a bad thing. Victoria II. Can anyone give me any insight of what all these numbers mean? 46 to 54 degree heads have narrower and deeper grooves as these are used more in fuller shots with greater swing/ball speed. I've always gone with clubs based off of feel and ball flight, not what the numbers say. This demonstrates that without changing technique and only changing strategy, the AMA can improve their performance. Close suggestions Search Search Search Search Its about 20% less when comparing PGA vs LPGA. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. Dustin Johnson can hit a putter 400 yards The best distance comparison we have for those clubs is therefore the carry distance. Paste as plain text instead, hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] When it comes to looking at how far the pros hit their wedges the stock yardage they hit each club is again obviously only one of the multiple yardages they can hit the most versatile clubs in any players golf bag. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021), link to What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? My spin dropped 500 rpm on average and my flight favoured the left side. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5, Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @46.5, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60.5 T) beginer level female golfer how to to benefit ths..is this correct this tracker.. Love all of this data and seeing exactly what the correlation is between the data and player performance! I would say probably is bs. Sorry for the ramble. [/quote] You can post now and register later. i suggested he play white from the start and he is happy. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. [/quote] For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. You will probably pick up that I gravitate towards the technical aspects of most things I do. First we have to determine the average length of the par 4s at your course from the different tees available. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. He is giving up 30 yards of total distance off the tee, which makes his approach shots more difficult. Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. Knowing tee shot distances and iron distances helps with that. And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. I ultimately decided on the Tour AD DI 6X as a better choice. As we can again see from Brooks Koepkas yardage book above he has 5 different yardages listed for each of his specialist wedges which highlights just how much distance control the best golfers in the world can exert with their wedges. The consistency of impact through the sand was staggering, I seemed to take the exact same amount of sand and impact location every time. X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. [/quote] [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. However don't be overwhelmed, the good news is that there is only one set up choice in the PW, two in the GW and multiple in SW and LW due to the wider range of shorter shots you play with these clubs. The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. In my opinion if your long game level is around hcap 0 you should score 76-80 . Im wondering if there are outliers here?. Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. Smash Factor 1.475 That's my opinion at least. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. I feel like a lot of AMs sacrifice strike for the extra 1-2 mph which ultimately leads to less distance. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. We share your golf passion. I don't play professional golf. I think you wish you hit it further. The average green size at Torrey Pines South is 6,000 square feet. Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. I don't measure my driver distance. To find a TrackMan Certified coach, please see our locator: trackmangolf.com/locator. I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution.